Curse

absolutcrobi · Jun 26, 2009, 07:40 PM // 19:40

They still need and everlasting mysterious tonic..... That one is the best.

Riot Narita · Jun 26, 2009, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Chitenous Summoning Stones are great (Devourer). They're the only ones I bother to craft.

They spread poison and bleeding... they have an IAS from Lightning Reflexes... they have forked arrow and volley (just add EBSoH, Splinter Weapon, Great Dwarf Weapon, etc and they're nasty). They have defense from Lightning Reflexes, a self heal, and they attack at range... making them good survivors.

Minami · Jun 27, 2009, 02:43 AM // 02:43

I love mysterious tonics, my favorite forms I've turned into so far were the Saltspray Dragon, Eye of Janthir, Mini Black Moa and Asura.
It annoys me to no end when I turn into something like the Golem, Yeti, Awakened Head and Grentch. I usually zone out and back in and use another tonic if that's the case. :P

Improvavel · Jun 27, 2009, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Several summoning stones are useful.

Both the gaki and the turtle come to mind.

Vanquishing the 4 and 6 ppl areas is much less time consuming with them on (and the damn tyria is still too much time consuming).

In 8 ppl areas they lose much of its allure.

Tender Wolf · Jun 27, 2009, 04:51 AM // 04:51

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Originally Posted by Minami Kaori

I love mysterious tonics, my favorite forms I've turned into so far were the Saltspray Dragon, Eye of Janthir, Mini Black Moa and Asura.
It annoys me to no end when I turn into something like the Golem, Yeti, Awakened Head and Grentch. I usually zone out and back in and use another tonic if that's the case. :P

hehe Same here. I'm forever being turned into a snowman, after I got like 50 for Wintersday. So I zone back in and out.

I forgot to mention how much I enjoy the Asura too.

Also, another question comes to mind for this topic - is there something you'd like to turn into/summon that you haven't yet? For me, it's probably a kveldulf or Eye of Janthir. Allies? I have yet to summon a bunny.

I don't mind merchant summoning stones, but since I have hardly any use for them I prefer to sell them. The only summoning stones I get come from Nicholas though - I won't buy them for fear I'd be wasting the money on one that commits suicide.

dr love · Jun 27, 2009, 05:40 AM // 05:40

that damn merchant agros everything in sight. he's pretty much a kilroy stoneskin. good thing he doesn't have frenzy.

rick1027 · Jun 27, 2009, 06:22 AM // 06:22

i love the mysterious tonics myself its fun to see what i become i usually get to be rabbit which i have both an everlasting tonic forr and several rabbit tonics and only use the summoning stones to get rid of them usually only during the first fight in hm hey they take a little damage when it seems the team is weakest

Stolen Souls · Jun 27, 2009, 11:07 AM // 11:07

I don't really care too much for tonics...never did. I'd rather my character look like himself than an elf, candy corn man, or grentch. Some of them are a little too big and others have annoying sounds. When I get them I either give them away or use them up as quick as I can to free up my space. Since I don't like them it's hard to pick a favorite.

As for stones, they are a bit more useful. My faves would be the mysterious, since I never know what I'm gonna get from them. The merch summon stones should be fixed...they should just stand still. Nothing beats needing to merch, summoning one, having him stroll halfway accros the map, then aggro everything in the area and die.

Dzjudz · Jun 27, 2009, 12:03 PM // 12:03

The Siege Turtle is amazing. It completely blocks my view though

. I love the rabbit summon too, rabid rabbit ftw! I find the summoning stones very helpful for HM missions or vanquishes. The mysterious tonics are good for my title

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Šiljo · Jun 27, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I love the stones,but they always die when i lure.

They shud put the "I will stay here" option when u click them.

Divine Ashes · Jun 27, 2009, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by Šiljo

I love the stones,but they always die when i lure.

They shud put the "I will stay here" option when u click them.

I agree, it's hard to pull when you have a melee summon jumping into the fray and committing suicide.

nitetime · Jun 27, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17

They definitely make it hard to pull, I guess thats why everyone says that they die so fast. I use them in early Tyria vanquishes, they help a lot in the party of 4 and 6 areas. I like the turtle, ooze, crystal golem, gaki, the first rabbit I got gave me a pretty good laugh.

Don't care much about the mysterious tonics, only good for party points really. Sold 200 of em this week in hopes I can get my party title for cheaper over the 4th.

Dont Nerf The Perma · Jun 27, 2009, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

I have yet to summon a bunny.

D

haha they die fast but they are loads of fun to watch

they jump up onto enemies like the rabbit does in monty python

Tender Wolf · Jun 27, 2009, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dont Nerf The Perma

haha they die fast but they are loads of fun to watch

they jump up onto enemies like the rabbit does in monty python

hehehe Cool! I think I might have seen someone's YouTube video showing that. Epic!

shoyon456 · Jun 27, 2009, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowerpoke

both are pointless inventory fillers
source of lazy 'content' (recycled monster models)

Not much more you can say than this.
/winthread

Hyper Cutter · Jun 28, 2009, 03:12 AM // 03:12

I wish there were Everlasting Summoning Stones. I love the Mysterious Stones but I'm so paranoid about wasting them...

SharonC · Jun 28, 2009, 03:46 AM // 03:46

I love the mysterious tonics simply because I never know what I will turn into. My favorite so far has been the Black Beast. (One of my guildies turned into Kuunavang, though. Not fair! I want to turn into Kuunavang!;-D) Not buying, though, because I'm not working on party animal. During vanqs, like to use the mysterious summoning stones to add a bit of extra tanking especially early in the vanq. Favorite summons so far has been the crystal guardian. Least favorite/useful was a swarm of bees.

Sjeng · Jun 28, 2009, 09:20 AM // 09:20

I love the mysterious stones and tonics. I use them ALL the time. It's always a surprise what you get. There's many awesome monsters, like the Siege Turtle, Oni, Juggernaut, Black Beast, Crystal guardian. Total leetsauce.

Sword Hammer Axe · Jun 28, 2009, 09:53 AM // 09:53

When it comes to Tonics I don't care. I didn't use hours to make a look for my character just to hide it with the form of some monster.

However I do enjoy summoning stones, although you need to know when to use them especially on HM. Summons tend to rush in towards enemies, making a lure difficult to pull. But at places where a lure is unneccessary they can be the best allies. Places where I think a summoning stone is great:
Defend missions/quests like:
- Eternal Grove
- Thunderhead Keep
- Gyala Hatchery
- Dzagonur Bastion and such.
If you're fighting a tough mob they can add some points to the survival rate.
While fighting certain bosses like:
- Abbadon
- Shiro/Lich
- Shiro
- Varesh
- Eldritch Ettin, Rragar and Hidesplitter, Thommis, Murakai, Khabuus, Plague of Destruction and such.

Of course some summoning stones are better than others. My favorites are:
- Ooze and Crystal Guardian: Wards for party protection + ok damage skills.
- Swarm of Bees: Not very good spawn but omg it's funny XD
- Saltspray Dragon: Cool and fine damage.
- Black Beast of Arrgh: Monty Python reference + pretty decent melee damage with monster skills like Finger's of Chaos and Enraged.
- Oni: Can put a lot of pressure on a single target.
- White Rabbit: Pressure and cute and Monty Python reference.

Least Favorite:
- Grentch and Snowman: Weak damage. Kinda like a flare spammer lol.
- Juggernaught: Has 1 good skill and is kinda bad at using it.
- Fire Imp: Few skills and little benefit.

Longasc · Jun 28, 2009, 11:08 AM // 11:08

Tonics turned GW into a carnival. Tons of monsters standing around is only cute if it is not the norm.

I wonder how new players see this, they enter Kamadan, experience trade spam and strange abominations that are transformed players...^^

Summoning Stones are just one more helper to dumb down the game more than it already is. They are cute of course, but in my opinion they are just one more consumable. Not the worst one, but still not a good idea at all.

IMO: Consumables+Tonics+Summoning Stones -> ideally suited for a bonfire, to celebrate the end of them and the half-assed ideas behind them.